Joe Coletti
Hello, and welcome back to Strategic Alternatives, the RBC Capital Markets podcast. I'm your host for this discussion today, Joe Coletti. This episode is part of our special series built around RBC Imagine, a flagship program from our global research franchise that identifies the transformational forces reshaping industries and what they mean for companies and investors over the next three to five years and beyond. Today we're focused on power, utilities, and infrastructure. The outlook for these sectors is broadly positive. Rising power demand is driving an ‘all of the above’ approach to energy development, creating tailwinds across every form of generation and delivery. So, the question isn't whether growth is coming, it's how companies and investors can position to capture it. Here to help us think through that are Robert Kwan, Head of Global Power, Utilities, and Infrastructure Research, and Maurice Choy, Canadian Energy Infrastructure Analyst, both here at RBC Capital Markets. Robert, Maurice, great to have you on the podcast.
Robert Kwan
Thanks, Joe. It's great to be here.
Maurice Choy
Thanks, Joe. Likewise.
Joe Coletti
Let's kick off with that ‘all of the above’ theme first. Robert, how has the Iran conflict accelerated the need for power and energy security?
Robert Kwan
The Imagine themes are intended to provide a framework for how people should think about opportunities and risks, covering a wide range of potential events and outcomes. So, really just a broad look at things. Specifically, though the war in Iran hammers home that ‘all of the above’ approach to energy supply. Several years ago, we were diving head first into a zero carbon resources world, away from conventional energy, but the war in Ukraine resulted in a shift towards policy balance. Although this seemed more regional as it related to Europe, the war in Iran has further shone a spotlight on energy security, and that ‘all of the above’ approach, this time on a global scale.
Joe Coletti
So building on that a little bit. One of the other things RBC Imagine research focuses in on is the affordability aspect in this sector, and the need to contain energy prices for the customer. So given, especially the conflict in Iran, how are you thinking about that now through this RBC Imagine lens, and how do you see that continuing to evolve?
Robert Kwan
Absolutely, look, it's easy for policymakers and people in general to see visible price markers, like the price of gas at the pump. What the war in Iran has done is it's brought the broader and indirect impact of energy supply constraints and elevated prices front and center. I think this has demonstrated that energy is such an integral part of what we do on a day-to-day basis, and the rising price of energy is having a very broad impact on inflation and affordability, from the price of groceries due to the soaring price of diesel, to a petroleum product like naptha, which never makes the mainstream news headlines. But naptha is used as a feedstock for a number of petrochemicals, and what we as consumers see in our everyday activities, in the form of plastics, rubber, solvents, etc. These topics are permeating almost every facet of our daily lives.
Joe Coletti
Maurice, I want to shift to you and have you talk a little bit about some of the other big themes and underlying trends covered in our RBC Imagine research, and how they're likely to affect players in the power utilities and infrastructure space, particularly over the next few years.
Maurice Choy
Thanks, Joe. When you think about infrastructure, what the companies are trying to solve for are effectively trying to find a balance between energy security, energy affordability, as well as energy transition, or clean energy. And what we oftentimes term as the energy trilemma. These infrastructure companies plan for decades, and they tend to have to think beyond what the government's latest agendas are, and try to anticipate the changing customer demand landscape. Now, what is clear is that this set of customer demand that we are facing right now, not just in Canada, but just globally, is changing. And one very relevant theme from the RBC Imagine report is the rise of the 8th continent, specifically how digital platforms are already starting to rival countries in terms of the power they wield. In energy terms, big tech platforms and hyperscalers could become the largest consumers of electricity on the planet, and some of these could go beyond country borders. That would give these companies the power to drive future demand growth. How energy transition does go about that, in terms of what technologies types are chosen and how great investment is made. They could also use that reach to deliver demand side management services for utilities as well. Now, all this obviously raises questions for regulators, for governments who are already trying to balance affordability and energy resilience priorities. These regulators, and governments now need to ensure that their regulation, their policies do accommodate these platform nations, and failure here will not only risk losing investments to other nations, but perhaps also risk losing the global AI race.
Joe Coletti
Let's touch on another RBC Imagine theme: crisis capitalism. This idea that persistent volatility is pushing companies to adapt faster while managing risks like climate events, cyber attacks, and grid instability. How is that shaping investment decisions across the sectors that you cover?
Maurice Choy
I think for the energy infrastructure sector, the companies that we look at own really critical assets that are essential to the daily lives of many North Americans. And as these companies aim to generate and deliver vast amounts of energy to households and institutions, preparation for instability has long become a norm. And the name of the game will be to position oneself to quickly adapt and benefit from uncertainty or volatility, while also to mitigate risk, because we know the instability will happen, and it's unlikely that the base plan will proceed as we all envisioned. For our sector, we believe that more investments are centered towards energy security, and we are finding ways to be more innovative in a way to keep bills affordable and also deliver energy that is clean. We're already seeing how many of the North American utilities are allocating a lot of capital towards protecting against a growing list of risks, and many of the ones that you just mentioned, climate events, cyber attacks, and grid instability, but we're also seeing an outsized set of investments in decentralized energy systems, such as modular grids, micro grids, distributed generation, and behind the media solutions, all aimed at creating more redundancies in case these instabilities and volatility do indeed happen. And lastly, for Canada, just more holistically, from a government policy perspective, I think we're seeing the federal government begin to recognize that they are in a special and opportune position to support more global energy exports, not just through the traditional conventional energy like crude oil, natural gas, and LPG, but perhaps also through electricity. And we've seen the government take actions and introduce policies to perhaps export some of the technologies that we have as a country, including in nuclear energy.
Joe Coletti
Robert, what role do you see a lot of these developing technologies that are being talked about today? How will it play out in the sectors of evolution in the next couple of years?
Robert Kwan
Yes, synthetic technology could have wide-ranging benefits for energy infrastructure, particularly as we think about improving efficiency, as well as securing supply chains, given the reliance on rare earth minerals in geographically challenging locations. So, as we think about the Imagine report, and an example here, a highlight is perovskite solar cells that have greater efficiency while avoiding some of the supply chain issues that we've seen for silicon-based solar technology. Another thing that we could bring up here as a use case would be the National Energy Technology Laboratory has developed a self-healing coating to prevent pipeline corrosion. That could further improve the safety of new and existing pipelines. I maybe finish with an idea that our European Utilities team originated, and passed along to me as I was helping author the Imagine Report, and that's the potential impact that the greater use of synthetic materials could have on water supplies, just thinking about what we're seeing out there around forever chemicals. This would obviously be a risk, but it also could be an opportunity for water infrastructure utilities that we cover as it relates to investment in monitoring equipment.
Joe Coletti
The water issue is really a fascinating one, and definitely one that we probably haven't talked about enough yet, certainly on our podcast, but I think also out in the world, and I think it's definitely an issue that we want to follow up on and possibly dig a little bit deeper to in future episodes. But another Imagine theme that I want to make sure we cover, and I'll maybe toss this to you, Maurice, is that theme of shifting superpowers, which, you guys talk about a lot: how energy demand and resource security are sort of reshaping global influence. I think we hear about it every single day now. How do you see that changing the competitive position of different countries and sectors as we start to look to the future in that three to five year and beyond window?
Maurice Choy
That really is a very timely question, particularly given what's happened this year in the Middle East. Big picture, we believe that Canada is now in an opportune time to better supply the global energy market with its products, from crude oil and natural gas to LPG and electricity. The long-term winners are likely to be nations such as Canada, with significant conventional energy resources, high standards of living, and democratic societies. Within our coverage for the midstream space, this means supporting the WCSB energy production, be that from the gathering and processing facilities to export facilities like crude oil pipelines, as well as LNG and LPG terminals. We are already seeing a global race to ensure that energy infrastructure is secure, durable, and reliable, and for our space, we are already seeing balance sheets being supportive to see more growth projects sanctioned moving forward. We expect this trend to continue, not just through the end of this decade, but also beyond. For the utilities, it is about supporting the changing customer demands, and in particular, I do want to highlight the AI race versus other countries globally. We should expect the utilities to continue investing in their jurisdictions, not just in a traditional sense, but also begin to create partnerships with some of the high electricity consumers, such as tech companies, to ensure that the demand requirements are met on a timely basis. You should expect that gas firepower generation facilities will be built, but also renewable net-zero solutions be brought up as well. And lastly, from a renewable energy perspective, look to some of these firms perhaps partnering or integrating with more domestic mining companies to ensure that the raw materials essential to their day-to-day operations and development are better secure closer to home.
Joe Coletti
So I want to close by giving our listeners a couple of key takeaways when they think about, not just the sector, but you know, some of the forces that we've been talking about. Maybe I start with you, Robert, if there's like one or two things that you guys are really watching closely, or that you think people listening to this really need to take away as they think about whether it's their portfolio, whether they're thinking about their strategic plans moving forward.
Robert Kwan
I think that really this current environment is hammering home to a broad population how important energy is to everybody's daily lives. And what that's manifesting itself as you think about the infrastructure side of things is, we've been in an infrastructure deficit as we think about delivering energy, so as we take the ‘all of the above’ approach, we look at things like energy transition, it's going to take a significant amount of investment in infrastructure to help deliver that energy to the broader population around the world.
Maurice Choy
I think Robert made a very good point about the significant amount of capital investments required, and starting with the utilities, affordability is sacrosanct. We are not to sacrifice affordability any day of the time, and if you look at the history of utilities, affordability has always been top of the agenda for many stakeholders, including regulators, as well as customers. So I would say that investors and listeners to this podcast should always keep an eye on how affordability is managed. Renewables is also another one. It may not seem like it is in favor today, given the US tax credits have been removed, or will be removed in the future, but we do believe that the net-zero direction of travel has not changed, and accordingly we do believe that investors should keep an eye on the sector and have some level exposure to renewable energy stocks, because this all of the above strategy for the global energy market is likely to be taken in the decades to come.
Joe Coletti
So, what comes through clearly to me in this conversation is that the forces reshaping power, utilities, and infrastructure aren't just sector specific, they're part of a much bigger story about where the global economy, where all industries are really headed, So, Robert, Maurice, thank you both for being here, and we look forward to having you back again in the future.
Robert Kwan
Thanks, Joe, for having us.
Maurice Choy
Thank you very much.
Joe Coletti
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